Comments on: [Beyond the Realm of Conscience] Episode 27 http://k-tvb.net/beyond-the-realm-of-conscience-episode-27/ K's space of thoughts on TVB Drama, Episode Synopsis Contains spoilers, Screencaptures, Themesong download, Lyrics and more. Tue, 22 May 2012 01:32:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Kayy LOVES RI http://k-tvb.net/beyond-the-realm-of-conscience-episode-27/#comment-119726 Kayy LOVES RI Mon, 25 Jan 2010 10:38:36 +0000 http://k-tvb.net/?p=3343#comment-119726 Moses doesnt like tavia he only made her concubine because in some earlier episodes ago he wanted to make charmaine concubine but she told him to go and make tavia concubine because tavia had a crush on him... so that was probably why he didnt say anything to defend her from the insults. but when he and kevin had defended charmaine Tavia probably felt and thought that she had no on her side and no one really cared about her but in reality she had charmaine...=) Moses doesnt like tavia he only made her concubine because in some earlier episodes ago he wanted to make charmaine concubine but she told him to go and make tavia concubine because tavia had a crush on him… so that was probably why he didnt say anything to defend her from the insults. but when he and kevin had defended charmaine Tavia probably felt and thought that she had no on her side and no one really cared about her but in reality she had charmaine…=)

]]> By: *xueling* http://k-tvb.net/beyond-the-realm-of-conscience-episode-27/#comment-119564 *xueling* Fri, 22 Jan 2010 10:55:53 +0000 http://k-tvb.net/?p=3343#comment-119564 Wait. no one felt sorry for tavia when you were watching the show? I was thinking: that sucks for her, real bad. I felt slightly sorry for her. But, she must recognise the fact that she's a concubine, and an emperor can take as many concubines as he wants. So basically, it's just like getting pretty sex machines (no seriously, sorry). As a concubine, you can't expect an emperor to love and treasure you when he can get like infinite concubines. If you expect him to, you must be a fool. Moses was unwilling to do anything for tavia precisely because he doesn't love her. He takes her as a pretty sex machine/hand accessory or something like that. An object basically. This is not like a case of susanna and kwok keung, who really love each other. (i did't cite charvin, coz i don't feel anything for them). and kwok keung did stand up for susanna. Making viewers happy :D Wait. no one felt sorry for tavia when you were watching the show? I was thinking: that sucks for her, real bad. I felt slightly sorry for her.
But, she must recognise the fact that she’s a concubine, and an emperor can take as many concubines as he wants. So basically, it’s just like getting pretty sex machines (no seriously, sorry). As a concubine, you can’t expect an emperor to love and treasure you when he can get like infinite concubines. If you expect him to, you must be a fool.
Moses was unwilling to do anything for tavia precisely because he doesn’t love her. He takes her as a pretty sex machine/hand accessory or something like that. An object basically.
This is not like a case of susanna and kwok keung, who really love each other. (i did’t cite charvin, coz i don’t feel anything for them). and kwok keung did stand up for susanna. Making viewers happy :D

]]> By: *xueling* http://k-tvb.net/beyond-the-realm-of-conscience-episode-27/#comment-119563 *xueling* Fri, 22 Jan 2010 10:48:53 +0000 http://k-tvb.net/?p=3343#comment-119563 "YAAAY. Michelle finally started to think straighter and try to make sense of things! Oh my god, when that voice greeted her, I was like, “Eh?!” because I thought it was Ram’s voice! It was so funny when it was actually just the eunuch." Yeah, I thought that it was ram's voice too, and it sounded so ghostly. So for a moment, I thought that he made an appearance *shudders* “YAAAY. Michelle finally started to think straighter and try to make sense of things! Oh my god, when that voice greeted her, I was like, “Eh?!” because I thought it was Ram’s voice! It was so funny when it was actually just the eunuch.”

Yeah, I thought that it was ram’s voice too, and it sounded so ghostly. So for a moment, I thought that he made an appearance *shudders*

]]> By: chibi http://k-tvb.net/beyond-the-realm-of-conscience-episode-27/#comment-119530 chibi Fri, 22 Jan 2010 02:54:35 +0000 http://k-tvb.net/?p=3343#comment-119530 haha, that's okay ^_^ Funny someone would eat a egg in the middle of the day, but I guess it's their snack? XD haha, that’s okay ^_^

Funny someone would eat a egg in the middle of the day, but I guess it’s their snack? XD

]]> By: chibi http://k-tvb.net/beyond-the-realm-of-conscience-episode-27/#comment-119529 chibi Fri, 22 Jan 2010 02:53:42 +0000 http://k-tvb.net/?p=3343#comment-119529 <em>YAAAY. Michelle finally started to think straighter and try to make sense of things! Oh my god, when that voice greeted her, I was like, “Eh?!” because I thought it was Ram’s voice! It was so funny when it was actually just the eunuch.</em> LOL, well...a much as I like Ram, it's best not to have a ghost version of him coming back LOL!! <em>I didn’t feel this at the time of watching, but now I kinda feel sorry for Tavia. After all, she is a concubine after all, and Moses didn’t say anything to stop Kwok Lun insulting her past! Dude, that’s also like an indirect insult to his MUM’s past! But no, the Emperor obviously can’t stop some General (what’s KL’s rank ._.) from speaking badly about HIS WIFE. Geeez T_T</em> You make a good point. When I watched this scene (and I think it would be the same for many others); everyone automatically thinks 'Woah, Tavia is so bitchy and angry again" and see it as unnecessary for her hating Charmaine who didn't do anything. But if you were in her shoes, if your husband stood up for another girl and not you, how would you feel? I think any normal person would be jealous and angry- and start saying things like wanting them not to exist. We probably wouldn't take it to the extent of killing them off, but we might curse here and then until the anger dies down. Tavia was obviously very heated up... (but her form of revenge is a lot more scary and evil..) As for being angry Kevin stood up for Charmaine, maybe Tavia was jealous of the amount of people loving and supporting Charmaine almost her entire life- something she feels she never had. If Kevin (who is lower in rank compared to Moses) is willing to speak up against Kwok Lun for the women he loves, why can't Moses do anything for her? YAAAY. Michelle finally started to think straighter and try to make sense of things! Oh my god, when that voice greeted her, I was like, “Eh?!” because I thought it was Ram’s voice! It was so funny when it was actually just the eunuch.
LOL, well…a much as I like Ram, it’s best not to have a ghost version of him coming back LOL!!

I didn’t feel this at the time of watching, but now I kinda feel sorry for Tavia. After all, she is a concubine after all, and Moses didn’t say anything to stop Kwok Lun insulting her past! Dude, that’s also like an indirect insult to his MUM’s past! But no, the Emperor obviously can’t stop some General (what’s KL’s rank ._.) from speaking badly about HIS WIFE. Geeez T_T

You make a good point. When I watched this scene (and I think it would be the same for many others); everyone automatically thinks ‘Woah, Tavia is so bitchy and angry again” and see it as unnecessary for her hating Charmaine who didn’t do anything. But if you were in her shoes, if your husband stood up for another girl and not you, how would you feel? I think any normal person would be jealous and angry- and start saying things like wanting them not to exist. We probably wouldn’t take it to the extent of killing them off, but we might curse here and then until the anger dies down. Tavia was obviously very heated up… (but her form of revenge is a lot more scary and evil..)

As for being angry Kevin stood up for Charmaine, maybe Tavia was jealous of the amount of people loving and supporting Charmaine almost her entire life- something she feels she never had. If Kevin (who is lower in rank compared to Moses) is willing to speak up against Kwok Lun for the women he loves, why can’t Moses do anything for her?

]]> By: 'Muff http://k-tvb.net/beyond-the-realm-of-conscience-episode-27/#comment-119477 'Muff Thu, 21 Jan 2010 03:17:37 +0000 http://k-tvb.net/?p=3343#comment-119477 YAAAY. Michelle finally started to think straighter and try to make sense of things! Oh my god, when that voice greeted her, I was like, "Eh?!" because I thought it was Ram's voice! It was so funny when it was actually just the eunuch. Ah, it's so much better to watch Michelle on good (or rather, better) terms with Susanna~~ And how she didn't want to admit she was wrong or anything, and tried to make up lame excuses for spilling Susanna's food. I didn't feel this at the time of watching, but now I kinda feel sorry for Tavia. After all, she is a concubine after all, and Moses didn't say anything to stop Kwok Lun insulting her past! Dude, that's also like an indirect insult to his MUM's past! But no, the Emperor obviously can't stop some General (what's KL's rank ._.) from speaking badly about HIS WIFE. Geeez T_T It must've been horrible for Tavia though, but that just got worse and converted to hatred and jealousy when TWO males defended Charmaine, who wasn't even as highly ranked as Tavia! And Tavia had thought that by becoming a concubine she wouldn't have to take trouble from people. (as she said in an early episode) Sad thing is, though, Charmaine was speaking up for Tavia, defending her, but it kind of... =\ led to Tavia hating her more, because of Charmaine's lover(s). YAAAY. Michelle finally started to think straighter and try to make sense of things! Oh my god, when that voice greeted her, I was like, “Eh?!” because I thought it was Ram’s voice! It was so funny when it was actually just the eunuch.

Ah, it’s so much better to watch Michelle on good (or rather, better) terms with Susanna~~ And how she didn’t want to admit she was wrong or anything, and tried to make up lame excuses for spilling Susanna’s food.

I didn’t feel this at the time of watching, but now I kinda feel sorry for Tavia. After all, she is a concubine after all, and Moses didn’t say anything to stop Kwok Lun insulting her past! Dude, that’s also like an indirect insult to his MUM’s past! But no, the Emperor obviously can’t stop some General (what’s KL’s rank ._.) from speaking badly about HIS WIFE. Geeez T_T

It must’ve been horrible for Tavia though, but that just got worse and converted to hatred and jealousy when TWO males defended Charmaine, who wasn’t even as highly ranked as Tavia!

And Tavia had thought that by becoming a concubine she wouldn’t have to take trouble from people. (as she said in an early episode)

Sad thing is, though, Charmaine was speaking up for Tavia, defending her, but it kind of… =\ led to Tavia hating her more, because of Charmaine’s lover(s).

]]> By: *xueling* http://k-tvb.net/beyond-the-realm-of-conscience-episode-27/#comment-119455 *xueling* Wed, 20 Jan 2010 10:17:59 +0000 http://k-tvb.net/?p=3343#comment-119455 Oh right. I got confused. Hahah, my trademark :D That one was funny yeahh! :D Although she said that too many eggs were bad for health, it would make her fat. *blinks twice* Oh right. I got confused. Hahah, my trademark :D
That one was funny yeahh! :D Although she said that too many eggs were bad for health, it would make her fat. *blinks twice*

]]> By: chibi http://k-tvb.net/beyond-the-realm-of-conscience-episode-27/#comment-119448 chibi Wed, 20 Jan 2010 07:50:22 +0000 http://k-tvb.net/?p=3343#comment-119448 <em>I don’t exactly think it was supposed to be as funny as we think it is, you know? It think it was supposed to be creepy. (even though i did know the storyline before i watched beyond, i was thinking/hoping, for a brief moment that ram came back/his ghost appeared or something)</em> Oh, I'm not referring to that scene, I meant the part where Michelle stops Susanna from eating an egg and the excuses she came up with XD I don’t exactly think it was supposed to be as funny as we think it is, you know? It think it was supposed to be creepy. (even though i did know the storyline before i watched beyond, i was thinking/hoping, for a brief moment that ram came back/his ghost appeared or something)

Oh, I’m not referring to that scene, I meant the part where Michelle stops Susanna from eating an egg and the excuses she came up with XD

]]> By: *xueling* http://k-tvb.net/beyond-the-realm-of-conscience-episode-27/#comment-119445 *xueling* Wed, 20 Jan 2010 06:51:22 +0000 http://k-tvb.net/?p=3343#comment-119445 "its amazing how quickly we can like a character who was once so bitchy ^_^" It's amazing how quickly one can hate a character too! Both of them took under one episode! "I liked this transition and it was much more believable and realistic than Selena turning form bitch to a goodie goodie. This is because we know Michelle’s reasons for behaving this way and it was all due to a misunderstanding " Selena's transition was not believable. Really! She turned into such an angel (you know charmaine style?), and why? because she was copying some scripture! Try selling me that. Funny now that people understand why she behaves this way! There was virtually no pity or understanding for her at all after episode 22 (well maybe except me, with a soft heart :O) But she was really so annoying (not to say that i didn't understand or pity her). Now the annoying index can be pushed over to tavia. "I loved this scene.. one of the funniest in the entire drama" I don't exactly think it was supposed to be as funny as we think it is, you know? It think it was supposed to be creepy. (even though i did know the storyline before i watched beyond, i was thinking/hoping, for a brief moment that ram came back/his ghost appeared or something) "I think they didn’t bother making Vin annoyed at Michelle because he knows she does love him and it wasn’t intentional.." I suppose that's because ram did love him and did treat him like a son, so this kind of got shifted to michelle. Though i will have to say that ram is actually much more kind hearted compared to michelle. (you know, I think that ram is an angel in this show. he treats everyone ever so nicely, esp michelle, and he doesn't sabotage people and does favours for them. But I think that his character is believable :O) "That’s slightly disappointing aye?" Slightly disappointing would be an understatement. Esp with ram's death (you wonder why i keep raising this. well, that's because i can't raise another example yet!). But watching veterans is like that, you prepare to be disappointed. “its amazing how quickly we can like a character who was once so bitchy ^_^”
It’s amazing how quickly one can hate a character too! Both of them took under one episode!

“I liked this transition and it was much more believable and realistic than Selena turning form bitch to a goodie goodie. This is because we know Michelle’s reasons for behaving this way and it was all due to a misunderstanding ”
Selena’s transition was not believable. Really! She turned into such an angel (you know charmaine style?), and why? because she was copying some scripture! Try selling me that. Funny now that people understand why she behaves this way! There was virtually no pity or understanding for her at all after episode 22 (well maybe except me, with a soft heart :O) But she was really so annoying (not to say that i didn’t understand or pity her). Now the annoying index can be pushed over to tavia.

“I loved this scene.. one of the funniest in the entire drama”
I don’t exactly think it was supposed to be as funny as we think it is, you know? It think it was supposed to be creepy. (even though i did know the storyline before i watched beyond, i was thinking/hoping, for a brief moment that ram came back/his ghost appeared or something)

“I think they didn’t bother making Vin annoyed at Michelle because he knows she does love him and it wasn’t intentional..”
I suppose that’s because ram did love him and did treat him like a son, so this kind of got shifted to michelle. Though i will have to say that ram is actually much more kind hearted compared to michelle. (you know, I think that ram is an angel in this show. he treats everyone ever so nicely, esp michelle, and he doesn’t sabotage people and does favours for them. But I think that his character is believable :O)

“That’s slightly disappointing aye?”
Slightly disappointing would be an understatement. Esp with ram’s death (you wonder why i keep raising this. well, that’s because i can’t raise another example yet!). But watching veterans is like that, you prepare to be disappointed.

]]> By: chibi http://k-tvb.net/beyond-the-realm-of-conscience-episode-27/#comment-119434 chibi Tue, 19 Jan 2010 23:27:32 +0000 http://k-tvb.net/?p=3343#comment-119434 <em>Finally. We have arrived at the point in time where michelle is so much more likeable! So i won’t have to curse her any longer </em> YES! It's such a relief... its amazing how quickly we can like a character who was once so bitchy ^_^ I liked this transition and it was much more believable and realistic than Selena turning form bitch to a goodie goodie. This is because we know Michelle's reasons for behaving this way and it was all due to a misunderstanding :) <em>The part where michelle was asking ram was soo creepy at first, with the ghostly voice, and michelle freaking out. (i got chills :O) And then she turns around, to see the eunuch, then it was comical!</em> haha exactly my thoughts!! <em>The scene where michelle stopped susanna from eating the eggs was soo comical! “it will ruin my reputation”, and susanna was like what?!. One could see that she was so baffled!</em> I loved this scene.. one of the funniest in the entire drama :D <em>I was so glad that Vin wasn’t annoyed okay. So glad! I was expecting him to slap michelle or ignore her or something.</em> I think they didn't bother making Vin annoyed at Michelle because he knows she does love him and it wasn't intentional.. They got straight to the point! I would have really wanted to see that though when Michelle was still bitchy, but now that she's a nice character it's good to see them all in harmony :) <em>Susanna and michelle beat charmaine and tavia anytime</em> That's slightly disappointing aye? Since Charmaine and Tavia are the leads with most screen time. Oh, I do enjoy the veterans too :) Finally. We have arrived at the point in time where michelle is so much more likeable! So i won’t have to curse her any longer

YES! It’s such a relief… its amazing how quickly we can like a character who was once so bitchy ^_^ I liked this transition and it was much more believable and realistic than Selena turning form bitch to a goodie goodie. This is because we know Michelle’s reasons for behaving this way and it was all due to a misunderstanding :)

The part where michelle was asking ram was soo creepy at first, with the ghostly voice, and michelle freaking out. (i got chills :O) And then she turns around, to see the eunuch, then it was comical!
haha exactly my thoughts!!

The scene where michelle stopped susanna from eating the eggs was soo comical! “it will ruin my reputation”, and susanna was like what?!. One could see that she was so baffled!
I loved this scene.. one of the funniest in the entire drama :D

I was so glad that Vin wasn’t annoyed okay. So glad! I was expecting him to slap michelle or ignore her or something.
I think they didn’t bother making Vin annoyed at Michelle because he knows she does love him and it wasn’t intentional.. They got straight to the point! I would have really wanted to see that though when Michelle was still bitchy, but now that she’s a nice character it’s good to see them all in harmony :)

Susanna and michelle beat charmaine and tavia anytime That’s slightly disappointing aye? Since Charmaine and Tavia are the leads with most screen time.

Oh, I do enjoy the veterans too :)

]]> By: chibi http://k-tvb.net/beyond-the-realm-of-conscience-episode-27/#comment-119431 chibi Tue, 19 Jan 2010 23:17:51 +0000 http://k-tvb.net/?p=3343#comment-119431 Tavia despises Charmaine because she's jealous everyone seem to love and protect her, while she has no one. It's nothing new though... Charmaine has always been more lucky than Tavia, even in the early stages when they were both servants. Tavia despises Charmaine because she’s jealous everyone seem to love and protect her, while she has no one. It’s nothing new though… Charmaine has always been more lucky than Tavia, even in the early stages when they were both servants.

]]> By: chibi http://k-tvb.net/beyond-the-realm-of-conscience-episode-27/#comment-119430 chibi Tue, 19 Jan 2010 23:16:10 +0000 http://k-tvb.net/?p=3343#comment-119430 lol yesh... his mouth is also much noticeably bigger than Moses XD lol yesh… his mouth is also much noticeably bigger than Moses XD

]]> By: *xueling* http://k-tvb.net/beyond-the-realm-of-conscience-episode-27/#comment-119409 *xueling* Tue, 19 Jan 2010 10:57:12 +0000 http://k-tvb.net/?p=3343#comment-119409 Finally. We have arrived at the point in time where michelle is so much more likeable! :D So i won't have to curse her any longer :D The part where michelle was asking ram was soo creepy at first, with the ghostly voice, and michelle freaking out. (i got chills :O) And then she turns around, to see the eunuch, then it was comical! The scene where michelle stopped susanna from eating the eggs was soo comical! "it will ruin my reputation", and susanna was like what?!. One could see that she was so baffled! I was so glad that Vin wasn't annoyed okay. So glad! I was expecting him to slap michelle or ignore her or something. But i suppose he understands her motivations, and susanna did lie to her. it was her mistake, like she didn't make use of him. She did look remorseful. Oh, and he does really treat her like his godmom eh? He just believes her like that, and he doesn't doubt her. (all i can say is that ram took the right godson) Even if the transition was weird, i would still have wanted it. People would probably be cursing michelle so badly, coz she's so annoying, that they would be glad to see this transition come. So whether it's believable or not is not a matter of contention. And susanna and michelle are better friends than enemies, seriously! I suppose michelle needs time to calm down and sort through her thoughts. (i believe that the incident where vin got into trouble did have an effect on her). Susanna and michelle beat charmaine and tavia anytime Even with michelle being a bitch and bullying susanna. That's how much i mean anytime. Susanna and michelle was the reason why i started watching this show. I wanted to give up at episode 10, due to the lack of scenes. But michelle, ram and susanna kept me going. Then it was michelle, ram, susanna and kwok keung. I almost gave up at episode 22 after michelle became so annoying and ram died (T.T) But in the end persisted coz of susanna, kwok keung and michelle. The whole show, for me, was kept together by 4 of them plus the fantastic veterans (mary, susan, etcetera) haha, i'm so weird right? there are people who will disagree with me and tell me that the veterans are a waste of time, i believe. But to me, this has never been the case! :D Finally. We have arrived at the point in time where michelle is so much more likeable! :D So i won’t have to curse her any longer :D
The part where michelle was asking ram was soo creepy at first, with the ghostly voice, and michelle freaking out. (i got chills :O) And then she turns around, to see the eunuch, then it was comical!
The scene where michelle stopped susanna from eating the eggs was soo comical! “it will ruin my reputation”, and susanna was like what?!. One could see that she was so baffled!
I was so glad that Vin wasn’t annoyed okay. So glad! I was expecting him to slap michelle or ignore her or something. But i suppose he understands her motivations, and susanna did lie to her. it was her mistake, like she didn’t make use of him. She did look remorseful. Oh, and he does really treat her like his godmom eh? He just believes her like that, and he doesn’t doubt her. (all i can say is that ram took the right godson)

Even if the transition was weird, i would still have wanted it. People would probably be cursing michelle so badly, coz she’s so annoying, that they would be glad to see this transition come. So whether it’s believable or not is not a matter of contention. And susanna and michelle are better friends than enemies, seriously! I suppose michelle needs time to calm down and sort through her thoughts. (i believe that the incident where vin got into trouble did have an effect on her).

Susanna and michelle beat charmaine and tavia anytime
Even with michelle being a bitch and bullying susanna. That’s how much i mean anytime.
Susanna and michelle was the reason why i started watching this show. I wanted to give up at episode 10, due to the lack of scenes. But michelle, ram and susanna kept me going. Then it was michelle, ram, susanna and kwok keung. I almost gave up at episode 22 after michelle became so annoying and ram died (T.T) But in the end persisted coz of susanna, kwok keung and michelle. The whole show, for me, was kept together by 4 of them plus the fantastic veterans (mary, susan, etcetera)
haha, i’m so weird right? there are people who will disagree with me and tell me that the veterans are a waste of time, i believe. But to me, this has never been the case! :D

]]> By: engsamnang http://k-tvb.net/beyond-the-realm-of-conscience-episode-27/#comment-119404 engsamnang Tue, 19 Jan 2010 07:04:55 +0000 http://k-tvb.net/?p=3343#comment-119404 nice watch with the scene of michelle relise the truth. Abit funny athought for her prohibition of susanna's poison.yES, Her charactor earlier the bitch but now began convert to mature lady again. tavia in on plotting and scheming. She abit clever this episode move around with abit active but feedback a huge revenge.I thoungt she hate charmaine to found her truth and scare out for its revealation included her past vegence or maybe moses look tight defending her and high protect to chamaine instead.Some confusion but exciting well. nice watch with the scene of michelle relise the truth. Abit funny athought for her prohibition of susanna’s poison.yES, Her charactor earlier the bitch but now began convert to mature lady again. tavia in on plotting and scheming. She abit clever this episode move around with abit active but feedback a huge revenge.I thoungt she hate charmaine to found her truth and scare out for its revealation included her past vegence or maybe moses look tight defending her and high protect to chamaine instead.Some confusion but exciting well.

]]> By: cooldudejohn http://k-tvb.net/beyond-the-realm-of-conscience-episode-27/#comment-119399 cooldudejohn Tue, 19 Jan 2010 02:43:20 +0000 http://k-tvb.net/?p=3343#comment-119399 It's funny how in the screenshot Kevin looks like he already finished saying stop in chinese while Moses is still looking and thinking of what he should say! It’s funny how in the screenshot Kevin looks like he already finished saying stop in chinese while Moses is still looking and thinking of what he should say!

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